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Why We Infiltrated & TOOK DOWN FLDS Polygamous Cult Leader (My Story) [62:24-67:30]

I think she should get an award from our local town. Because if it weren't for her risking her life, many of the residents may have ended up in a very even worse place like in a foreign country being trafficked or something. I only have positive things to say about that remarkable woman. Yeah. She is incredible. Maybe one day we'll get to hear from her on the show. I am talking to Nums and I'm really hoping that we can get that interview before I go into labor in a few days. We'll see. I need to reach back out to her today. So throughout the ending when you can tell how difficult this is on you. And you keep saying these girls are going to hate me. These girls are going to hate me. But I have to do this. We're all on your side going, yes, we understand. And and the sacrifice that you had to make too by in some ways betraying their trust. Just to help them because you know what's you've been on their side. You know what they're going through and you can see the pain that it's causing them and you're just trying to help them did any of that actually play out. We know that Nums is out and grateful to you and you guys are great friends now. Did it play out for anybody else where they felt like you were betrayed and how is that going now? So I'm close with some of the Andrei's girls. They're all super grateful. You know that we did what we did. Yeah. And there are people that still believe and say I know that they still hate me. And when they I hope that when they deconstruct that they understand that the part where I cared about them that was authentic. Yeah. That's not a betrayal. I really still do care about them and I understand they're anger. And I can understand they're anger about the series too because now here we are saying all the ways that we trick them. You know I could see why that would be very triggering. I also know that they are safer with Sam in prison even if they believe in him. And I believe that I mean more of them have come out than I mean since the documentary was filmed. So it's pretty exciting. There are other adults and things. But it's hard to know what we know after having been through these things and just to know they're still in the beginning of their journey. We want to rush things. But in my situation it's you know they won't talk to me. And I think that you know they might even because of the influence of Sam might even come out against me or the project or something. But it's to be expected you know until they wake up. Yeah. They're just going to continue to see me as somebody that did wrong by them until they wake up. One of the questions that we got during our life yesterday was what was Warren Jeff's reaction to everything that Sam was doing? Did you know of any of that if Warren knew about it if he commented on it? He did. A letter came out that said that Sam had been sent away some time ago. He was not and that you know Warren Jeff is still alive. And that you know did not approve that what Sam was doing in no way has been anything that the FLDS have ever done. So there was some attempt to try to help wake them up. Yeah. Which is interesting but because it seems like Sam just took things directly out of Warren's playbook at least according to some of Warren Jeff's ex-wives who I've interviewed. One of them recently where she was like oh yeah I started watching the documentary and thought well that's exactly what Warren did. He just literally stole from his playbook. Did you feel that that was the case? That's something that people who are married to him can comment on. But I don't know. You know I will tell you this that when Willie Steve the young FLDS man that we helped years ago that really got us thinking about the crick. He came over with his wife recently and he was in a home that had this big home theater I guess. It was filled with people that all watched the documentary series and after they watched it they all said they all said that Sam was
Cults to Consciousness · Apr 28, 2026
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