Frustrated by U.N. Process, 50+ Countries Launch Alternative Climate Change Foru [5:00-10:01]

Can you talk about the significance of countries like this, not attending, even though many would argue that China has made tremendous strides in moving toward a renewable energy more than many people expected. So we expect dominant nations to join at once this momentum gets going like so. For example, we would not really find it helpful to have the United States at the negotiation at this conference right now because the United States government acting against the interests of its own citizens as they have done for decades now will come there and block any progress because they are so beholden to the fossil fuel industry, oligarchs and they serve those interests rather than serve the interests of the American people or people in the world at large. So we are seeing now leadership coming from the most ambitious countries and those that don't contest the science, those that are not saying drill, baby drill and so on. So bottom line is, you know, there was a field of dreams by Kevin Kossner, you remember the movie where the tagline was, if you build it, they will come. So we are building a undeniable, science-based vehicle to move us forward and we would rather the dominant nations like the US, like Saudi Arabia, Russia and so on, don't actually come now and contaminate the conversations and bring down ambition as they have done repeatedly the year in, year out at the climate negotiations. Let me now do, Harmoose is a checkpoint, is really a choke point for a fifth of the world's oil, now war zone. How do you convince nations like India that building more renewables is safer and more reasonable than digging up more of their own coal and countries like the US? Well, I think President Trump is actually an accidental advocate for paving out of fossil fields. It's not a secret, we've known it for decades, right? That fossil fuels is the biggest conflict driver and the biggest drive of war. You know, on a lighter note you might remember that the horrific violation of international law when the Iraq invasion happened was called Operation Iraqi Freedom, evidently it was called Operation Iraqi Liberation which started oil and then the change into Operation Iraqi Freedom. So basically most people know that these wars are driven by fossil fuel interests and I think this terrible invasion of Iran that has happened in this attack, basically a sent a message to many people including in India and elsewhere that fossil fuels is not a safe way to be able to secure your energy needs and I think that overall what we are seeing conversations happening on the ground, the advocacy of social movements to push the government is actually getting some currency because of the exposure of our dependency. Imagine if one straight can shut down fertilizer, can shut down driver costs of fuel and so on. Is this the system we want to live on with this level of poverty? I believe most ordinary people in the world want to break away from that system and that's why we are optimistic that more people will be with us now to face out on the fastest possible timeline in the first possible way from fossil fuels and we are seeing that shift happening in public opinions accelerated by the anxieties over the shutting down of the state of almost. And Kumi we just have about a minute but the conference is scheduled to last until April 29th. What single concrete outcome would make you declare there's somebody real success? So one that there is no question after this we will get the focus on fossil fuels in a fundamental way. So it needs to have a basis of a fossil fuel phase out plan that even the cop process will not be able to ignore but we already have an impensable agreement which is that in the first quarter of next year irrespective of what happens in Turkey we will have the second fossil fuel phase out conference and if this year lays the basis which we hope it will to actual negotiation starting by the most ambitious countries that would be not obviously immediately but in the course of next year will be the best possible outcome from this