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He became law that those getting help to low income people would be given to the states not as a national thing. And as a result, a bunch of people just didn't put that up with doing the state. They didn't use it. And it went from about 16, 17 million people down to three. Three because of that law. And so I left. Did Clinton sell the soul of America in a sense? Did you think he sold the soul at least of the Democratic Party? Well, I have to say no. I mean, he's saying in that time he wasn't going to be the same person as Robert. Right. So I'm saying he kind of sold the soul at the heart of the Democratic Party. That's right. And why do you think he did that? Because he wants to live. He wants to life a change at that time. And he thought he needed to do things to keep his job. How profound the mistake you think it was. My job was looking about it was it was terrible because the basis for that and some other things. But not having the help of low income people to hit them as they did. There was really no clear saying we'll throw a young low income people. He didn't have to do that. The next Democratic president, of course, after Bill Clinton was Barack Obama. I'm not sure you work with Obama, but you know all the players. And I'm sure you know him and Michelle quite well. What do you make of the Obama administration? Was it closer to Clinton than it was to JFK? Yes, I think so. If you look on this or that and so on, it might be something that wouldn't be perfect. But yes, he was the person who was closest to Robert. And finally, Peter, you've had a long life, a very wise life, a very dramatic one of great joy and some tragedies. As America, we began with this question of America losing its heart, perhaps its soul in the current situation. Have you given up on America and if not, where's the hope? Oh gosh, we're not saying that it's gone. We're in a terrible situation, but what we're seeing right now is that millions and millions and millions of people have gone out and said, stop, don't do that. And it is a wonderful thing. So in other words, stop, don't do, stop, don't do that is. Perhaps the clear start, articulation of what it means to be an American. Yes. Well, Peter Adelman, I want to thank you so much for the generosity of your time, your man who's seen a great deal. And it's real honor to have you on the show. Thank you so much. Thank you. Hi, this is Andrew again. Thank you so much for listening or watching the show. If you enjoyed it, please subscribe. We're on Substack, YouTube, Apple, Spotify, all the platforms. And I'd be very curious as to your comments as well on what you think of the show, how it can be improved,