Secret America LIVE - Episode 75 - Interview w/ Eric Burlison - The Truth is out [10:13-15:30]

So, all that to be said is that arrow, in my opinion, you know, what they were working with in the framework that is limited because it's, it's government intergovernmental agencies. It's not, it's not programs that are being led by the White House or the private sector. So, that's, you know, that's, those are the conversations that I've had with, with David Grush. And, and one of the, one of the areas where he, he's providing some counsel and advice to arrow on, on where to go to get more information. So, do you think it was an intentional, I mean, obviously, yes, I do, but I want to get your opinion, did at some point, our government, whether it was in the 40s for the 50s under Eisenhower, if magic, the magic 12 committee was actually real thing, you think at some point they made a conscious decision to turn these projects over to private contractors, specifically to avoid congressional oversight. I do, I do, I think that that happens all the time. Really? Yeah, I do. And I think that there's, you know, things that the CIA has done throughout the years. That, you know, that you and I would be appalled at that the American people would, would not stomach and would not tolerate. But they, but they were able to do it oftentimes without any kind of oversight, because it's usually they're contracting with a private company that's contracting with another private company, right. Right, achieve the mission, and so they can have plausible deniability, but I, you know, for example, the IRA and contra fair, like, like, all of these eight, all these, you know, programs, a lot of times, there's things that are happening that we would not really. I want to create what you mentioned around contra like the drug running through me, right. Yeah, yeah, wow. So let me, let me ask you and this is going to be, you know, I'm just going to kind of change the topic here, because there's something that I want to know. And I know other people want to know also and I'm not saying necessarily that you would know this answer, it's just something that, you know, something that's been on, on my mind as well as everybody else's. So you know, do you know anything a little bit about the social security thing and what's going on here with, so you know how people pay into social, me and James were actually talking about this. Congress in 1983, Congress borrowed $7.3 trillion from the Social Security Trust Fund, right, which is supposed to go to people for future use. And then every time we get a few trillion in there, they borrow it, but they never pay it back. I mean, do you, do you know, is that actually legal? I mean, are they allowed to borrow it without, you know, public consent and then never pay it back? I mean, is that not theft? Well, that's what, that's what government does to people every day. I mean, I think all taxation is theft, which is why I'm a strong advocate for having, you know, a government that's barely big enough to make to ensure your rights are protected. So, and nothing more, but, but yeah, I mean, I would, if it were unconstitutional, it probably would have been challenged and the court would have stepped in. But, I mean, it's said that, that that's the case. And it's sad that it's, it's not funded. I mean, and it's a reality that we're going to have to face in the, in the, in the not too distant future. I think that it's scheduled to, the money that is going out is going to eclipse the money that's coming in. Let's see that, that, that right there, what you just said in the next seven years. Yeah, that is extremely angering, if you will, because we would have right now, had they not borrowed and never paid back, starting in 1983, we probably have $15, $20 trillion in that Social Security Fund that would, you know, cup, take care of Social Security for the next hundred years or something. Right? $15 to $20 trillion is probably what we would have right now in that Trust Fund to take care of everybody. Instead, they borrowed that money, never paid back and now Rand Paul says, oh, we're probably going to raise the age to 70. I mean, a lot of people don't want to work until there's 70. That's, I mean, that's insane. Now, what are your thoughts on them trying to raise the age to 70? Yeah, let's like, and we can draw some parallels between this and Obamacare. But look, the Democratic Party, when they sold the Social Security system, it was a total sham. You know, basically they, this is what government does. They, they step in and they say, we're here to help. We're going to provide this, you know, amazing service to you. But at the end of the day, you're paying for it. The question I would ask most people is, if you had taken the amount of money that you've been putting into Social Security, your Social Security, your FICA payments, you've been paying and your employer has been paying, and you took, put that money into an index fund, you know, in the stock market, you would be wealthy.