John Bush Takes Us Inside Anthrax's 1990's Era | Exclusive Interview [40:27-45:32]

kind of happening in the middle of the 80s. As a matter of fact, the MTV was saying, well, we're not going to play videos for a bit of like hard rock bands. And so we didn't even make a video for that record, which is, you know, never a good idea even in the 80s, especially because we we had just made candy deliver, which was such a big video. And they played it a lot. So again, many times Scott in my career, I go, I can explain or I can't even explain, but mistakes were made, you know, lots of mistakes in Armored St, in an anthrax. What are you going to do? You look back and just kind of I laugh most of the time or just go, oh, that was a mistake. But, you know, I think the Delirious Nomad record still will look we'll be looked at very fondly. And it's, you know, we're going to it's going to be fun to go out and play some of these tunes live, like I said. Absolutely. And you mentioned the, and we talked about the Metallica Wasp, Armored St. Tour. What made that, I didn't see the tour. I've heard about it, you know, talk about. Through the grapevine. Through the grapevine. What made it so memorable? Well, it was our first full-length record. We put out an EP in 83 on metal blade records, courtesy of Brian's Legally signed us and then we put out the three song EP and then that led to getting a deal with Crystalis on a major record company, which is what most bands were trying to do at that time. They used an ND to get to a major and we were no different and we were part of the LA scene that all our peers like Rad and Wasp and Great White and Steeler and we played with all these bands and Black and Blue and Odin and you name it. So like everybody's objective is to try to get a deal and then, you know, it used an ND to get a major deal and that's what we did. Lo and behold, we did come back to metal blade years later and we've been ever since but and happy to be, by the way. But yeah, at that time we were, it was our first full-length record on Christmas, 84 and you know, it was our new record of the 10 songs and it was also Wasp first album that came out and then for Metallica it was right, the lighting. So they had already put out but they were just having this major explosion taking place then and you could fill it and so to have to be part of that tour where Metallica was blown up and Wasp obviously was generating a ton of press and a lot of interest and Armored Sane had a buzz to go out and that tour of the three bands together, you know, it just it was it was a great tour. We played a lot of small clubs and they were packed and crazy. We did the three nights at the Lamores Club in Brooklyn that were infamously packed and sold out and so just to be part of that tour was was really fun and like I said, people still to this day they'll show me they'll pull out the ticket stuff and I was there man, I was there and I'm like cool. Was that the tour in which Metallica asked you to join the band? Well, no, that was actually really before that. I mean, they were actually considering having a singer change during the Killamall time and that's when I got a call from Johnny Z, John Zzzula who was their manager at the time and was putting it was mega force records and and he was, you know, I guess James was still not quite sure if he wanted to be just a lead singer and guitar player. He was for sure going to be the real guitar player, of course, but I guess he was still unsure about singing and so yeah, I got the call. It was hard for me and I try to explain that all the time is that the guy's insane and I we grew up together. We've known each other, we got some Phil and Joey have known each other since like we were nine years old. So and I just turned 62 so we're talking about 53 years now of knowing one of their mean friends and going back to you know, basically the fourth grade. So there was even at that point, even though this is 1983, 82, there was already a lot of foundation of our friendship then, you know, not to mention now, you know, we're talking half a century here, but it was, it was, Metallica was great and they were cool and I saw this upcoming band and it was nobody had the vision of what they were going to become of course. Well, at large probably did, but nobody could foresee that what was going to happen and I don't think that would have changed anything. Obviously, I would have changed thing because I would have changed the voice, but I think that really when it came down to it, I was happy in my band. So I was like, well, I don't want to leave my band, I like my band and so to me it was, it just, I was flattered of course, but I didn't want to just quit my band and we were rolling and doing well. So, you know, I always say that I could have changed the whole face of heavy metal and that's a lot of pressure I don't need. And James Eiffel that I've said this numerous times, I mean James is, he's just an incredible singer, he's really, really come a long way and you know, from Killemall all the way to, you know, the black album and all the records after,