Kennedy Inn of Court Reflections by Judge Consuelo M. Callahan [5:07-7:57]

but made some very comment about traditional women, and women were more nurturing, and were more meant, you know, with children and all of that. And so you have a room of professional women in there, and there was like, ever, there was like a gas that came over the audience, but that was the thing that I liked. I don't know whether he made it provocatively. He could have very well believed it, but it, the way that the end works and with the moderation, and how we discussed stereotypes, we discussed difficult issues, and we discussed them openly. There truly is a free speech somewhere that it really, it, you know, those kind of provocative comments allow for further discussion and hearing other people's perspective, which I do think that that's really important for people to have a place to say what they think and feel that they can safely participate in the discussion, but I also think it means you a better lawyer. You know, being a good lawyer means you have, there's certain things you have to hear that you don't want to hear. You've got to hear both sides of it, and as lawyers, sometimes we just want to hear the side that reinforces our possession. So I think that the end is a really good place to be a free speech zone. The hammies, like many things in the Antonyham Kennedy Inn, go back to Art Scotland, and he decided that that would be a good way to recognize people's accomplishments and just for us to have fun and give a little bit of a, you know, kind of little fire in everyone's belly so that they can win one of these like super cheap little trophies. However, the acknowledgement of your peers that you've done a good job. And so we, we started that and he got me as a willing partner, and so we just decided and I never went to walk away from an opportunity to dress up in, you know, various, uh, formals, tiaras, art has tails, all of that. And so we just have a lot of fun doing it, and people seem to really enjoy, um, seeing other people could get awards, and they hoped they would get one of the coveted hammies. And then we always, but we always kept it was, it was a lot of fun, it was a lot of over the top, and it was different than any other inn. And we always had like the voice of conscience. We came back to our values and made sure that we recognized that, and the most coveted awards were always the people that really embodied what the in movement is all about. So it just, uh, it, people loved it, responded to it, and so we've kept it coming.