Justice Consuelo Marie Callahan, Circuit Judge, United States Courts of Appeal [5:01-10:08]

farmer there that farmed through then and and right they raised there were actually six children but one died and so they raised five children in that particular area did you grow up bilingual then as a result well I always heard Spanish and I do speak Spanish and took it in school but it was funny back then it really wasn't very cool to be bilingual and my mother was fairly traumatized in remembering not going to school not speaking the language and that the prejudice I think that existed in terms of where she went to school there was the kids from Los Althos and the kids from Mountain View that were the other side of the tracks that were not the English speakers and that type of thing so my mom wanted me to be more be more comfortable and be more assimilated and while I don't think she was not certainly not ashamed of her heritage but it wasn't considered a positive so I would say I always heard Spanish but English was is my more comfortable and was more my first language now when you were the you were born the oldest child so were there any expectations of you as the oldest daughter in the family well my parents you know I look back and I'm really constantly amazed at their parenting skills that I never felt that they ever told us what to do but somehow they had this very subtle communication it's not that we were spanked it's not that we were we weren't yelled at anything along those lines but somehow you got you knew one thing education was really important and I think the immigrant thought process to some extent is the way that you get ahead the way that you have independences that you have to be a good student you have to be educated and the emphasis was not I would say on making money but the emphasis was on education and that was a real clear message my dad continued on being an educator and he went back when I was in fifth grade well he got his masters and his doctorate from Stanford in education and went on and was a school administrator so I would say that was a very clear expectation education and my mom had another subtle expectation I think she was a pretty early on feminist in the standpoint that being raised in a she had three brothers and a sister and it was clear all the kids even though they went to college the boys went to Stanford they went away the girls went to San Jose State and they lived at home and girls got married and had their families and my mom was I think always a little bit frustrated and felt a little bit trapped in her life that it frightened her that she didn't feel she could take care of her children and she always to her daughters there was a not so subtle mantra going on you need to have a career you need to be able to take care of yourself don't be dependent on a man because you never know what's going to happen to you in this life so you know I would say that kind of streak of feminism coming from someone that wasn't a very you wouldn't very likely think it would be coming from and and my dad was interested in a way that he well I don't think he liked my mom doing whatever she wanted but with his daughters he was very equal with his daughters and his son in the sense that I never saw a sense of doubt in my father's eyes whatever I said I wanted to do it was just do it then it was and he was very equal with his children that way and I would say almost in the sense that my brother who needless to say is I mean he's he's a successful dentist did very well in school and all of those things he's more laid back than my sister and I are because I think my mother and my father in a sense felt society takes care of boys and girls you you've got to have that hand on their back and push them out at that particular time so yeah those are the those dynamics were going on but they never said interestingly it wasn't you have to pick any sort of career they didn't just do what you love and be good at it and interestingly I'm a while I'm a lawyer and then became a judge my brother's a dentist as I said and my sister is a teacher but she's getting her PhD right now in in the area of well cognitive learning and reading and she's in Berkeley right now so I would say we were kind of lifelong learners it sounds like the dynamics of your family is the formula for adult success education and independence and just the support that you receive from your parents can you tell me just before I move on to the high school years and what you were involved in then what was a typical day like in your life when you were growing up well it's funny I was