Secret America LIVE - Episode 75 - Interview w/ Eric Burlison - The Truth is out There

This is Secret America, with your hosts, Jack Danger and James Clary. Welcome everybody. I am Jack Danger along with the ever happy. James Clary, James, we have a very special guest for us. We do, we do, we do, man. Congressman Eric Burleson from the seventh district, my home district in Missouri. We're going to go ahead and bring him in now. Eric, how are you doing today? How are you doing, my friend? Eric was a long time member of the Missouri House and Missouri Senate. I don't want to do a long introduction, but he's been in Congress for three years. He's aligned with the Freedom Caucus. He is known for gun rides, cutting taxes, medical freedom, education reform, and cutting government spending, which right there there's enough to talk about. But I do want to know one thing, Jack. Eric is responsible and it's a roundabout story, but his bill got us constitutional carry in Missouri. He's the reason I can take a gun anywhere, Missouri, hidden or not, which is pretty cool, except those gun free zones, of course. Yeah, well, I mean, that's amazing, but you know, it's also kind of sad that the government has to do that, you know, just to, you know, for us to be able to use our constitutional rights, but it's amazing that we have a congressman that is willing to help America, you know, in the Americans get their constitutional rights and be able to use them. So, you know, today, you know, obviously we love having you here because, you know, you are one of the most honest congressman that there is. You know, I want everybody to know that you are one of the people that, you know, would tell the truth. If you know what the answer is, you would tell it. And I really appreciate that. I've seen, you know, many of your hearings in Congress, and I see the questions that you ask. It's very intelligent, articulate, well spoken. I love that. So I'm just going to go ahead and ask you a question, just a straight-up question. Everything, so everything that you've seen, and I asked Timberchette this same question last week, everything that you've seen, both publicly and public hearings and behind closed doors. Okay, I'm not going to ask you to, you know, divulge what you've seen behind closed doors, but everything that you've seen there and publicly, just the yes or no answer, not opinion, but an actual fact. Do you know that there is intelligent life beyond earth? Wow, we're getting right into it. Let's go, baby. I don't have definitive proof that there's intelligent life outside of human intelligence on earth. I have seen some blurry videos. It's probably the best that I can, I can give you. I've spoken with countless people and heard their, their, you know, whether it's whistle or David Grush, who is now one of my, one of my part-time employees, or it's, you know, folks like Michael Batista, Michael Herrera, just spoken to a lot of people who have, you know, claimed to have had these experiences. And on many, everybody that I've spoken to except for maybe one is, is completely, in my opinion, honest, and is, you know, believes that what they saw was non human intelligence. I have no doubt about that that they, if I, I feel like if I put them on a polygraph test, they probably would pass. But because, but what I, but for me, I haven't seen what they see. And so to me, you know, you could look at one picture and see what is at a rabbit or another person can look at the same picture and see a duck. There's a lot of times I think that that phenomenon is happening. I've been sent through some briefings with Arrow where they have pulled up, you know, nearly two dozen different events that everybody has talked about that everybody's seen and, and dispel those to us and showed us exactly what they were. Now that being said, like Arrow, you know, I think that whenever I spoke with them, a lot of people think that Arrow was kind of a catch was kind of a, what do you call it? Disinfo? Yeah. And it may be, but what I, what I will say is I think that the current director seems to be truly trying to get to the truth. And I think that like Tim Phillips, for example, was willing to get to the truth. It was also kind of highly skeptical, kind of like me, but I do think that they were diligently trying to get to the truth. Now that a lot of times, things that they were recovering were things that they couldn't that were like foreign objects by some of our adversaries. And so, so, or items that were being developed by some of our, by some of our advanced military tech. That's true. I mean, witness eyewitness testimony is, is wholly unreliable. I mean, you just, you just never know memories can be, you know, manipulated, altered. You know, people can think they saw something, but they didn't. So, you know, it's hard to, hard to trust eyewitness testimony, right, James? Yeah. Let me just give, maybe give the audience a little background. Eric was part of a multi session congressional briefing back in May over UAP. If you're wondering why we just jumped into UAPs. And like you said, you just recently announced that David Grush is going to be an advisor. Now, Grush had very high security clearance. And his testimony, I encourage everyone to go watch it because to me, it was absolutely stunning. Eric, as you know, you and I've talked about this many times, I've been into the whole UFO UAP thing for well over a decade. I'm thoroughly convinced that there is nonhuman intelligence. I have no idea where it comes from. It might be spiritual. It might be nuts and bolts. I don't know, but I wanted to give the audience a little background because we kind of jumped into that. So what tell us about arrow? What is arrow? And why did the leadership get replaced? So arrow is, you know, one of those, it's an acronym for some a government, I don't, I'm not really going to remember. Like ants, reconnaissance, reconnaissance and something. All domain anomaly resolution office or something like that. That agency was stood up to investigate the UAP phenomenon on the unidentified aerial phenomenon. And they created a team of people that they pulled from different agencies. So you had someone from people from the CIA, you had people from Department of Defense, you had people from the NSA, all kind of working on this project. And the goal is to find things, you know, run them to ground, figure out what really happened and then, and then where they can declassify. And they've declassified a number of events and videos you can go to their website and see. And so, look, I think that at the end of the day, what became apparent to me and what one of the flaws of that agency is that a lot of their requests and a lot of people there were, you know, seeking, you know, to come testify and provide testimony are either not in the private sector where a lot of these, where a lot of this, I'm told lies. Or they were really at the White House SAP level is the special access program level on front at the White House level, which, which they feel like at that level, they don't have to follow the normal guidelines that one of the one of the agencies has to follow. COD has to provide information to Congress on a regular basis, at least to the House on Services Committee to the Senate Armed Service Committee to the gang of eight, right. The Intel, you know, CIA intelligence agencies have to provide just, you know, some kind of briefing to or oversight to House Intelligence Committee Senate Intelligence. Yeah, yeah, right. But, but if you're in the White House program, if you're White House special access, they don't necessarily are, they're not necessarily required to do that. And so, the, there's also a constitutional debate, the, you know, the executive branch has the authority to classify things. Some people believe that that authority only gives them the authority to classify items within their own, you know, their own article within article two. So, all that to be said is that arrow, in my opinion, you know, what they were working with in the framework that is limited because it's, it's government intergovernmental agencies. It's not, it's not programs that are being led by the White House or the private sector. So, that's, you know, that's, those are the conversations that I've had with, with David Grush. And, and one of the, one of the areas where he, he's providing some counsel and advice to arrow on, on where to go to get more information. So, do you think it was an intentional, I mean, obviously, yes, I do, but I want to get your opinion, did at some point, our government, whether it was in the 40s for the 50s under Eisenhower, if magic, the magic 12 committee was actually real thing, you think at some point they made a conscious decision to turn these projects over to private contractors, specifically to avoid congressional oversight. I do, I do, I think that that happens all the time. Really? Yeah, I do. And I think that there's, you know, things that the CIA has done throughout the years. That, you know, that you and I would be appalled at that the American people would, would not stomach and would not tolerate. But they, but they were able to do it oftentimes without any kind of oversight, because it's usually they're contracting with a private company that's contracting with another private company, right. Right, achieve the mission, and so they can have plausible deniability, but I, you know, for example, the IRA and contra fair, like, like, all of these eight, all these, you know, programs, a lot of times, there's things that are happening that we would not really. I want to create what you mentioned around contra like the drug running through me, right. Yeah, yeah, wow. So let me, let me ask you and this is going to be, you know, I'm just going to kind of change the topic here, because there's something that I want to know. And I know other people want to know also and I'm not saying necessarily that you would know this answer, it's just something that, you know, something that's been on, on my mind as well as everybody else's. So you know, do you know anything a little bit about the social security thing and what's going on here with, so you know how people pay into social, me and James were actually talking about this. Congress in 1983, Congress borrowed $7.3 trillion from the Social Security Trust Fund, right, which is supposed to go to people for future use. And then every time we get a few trillion in there, they borrow it, but they never pay it back. I mean, do you, do you know, is that actually legal? I mean, are they allowed to borrow it without, you know, public consent and then never pay it back? I mean, is that not theft? Well, that's what, that's what government does to people every day. I mean, I think all taxation is theft, which is why I'm a strong advocate for having, you know, a government that's barely big enough to make to ensure your rights are protected. So, and nothing more, but, but yeah, I mean, I would, if it were unconstitutional, it probably would have been challenged and the court would have stepped in. But, I mean, it's said that, that that's the case. And it's sad that it's, it's not funded. I mean, and it's a reality that we're going to have to face in the, in the, in the not too distant future. I think that it's scheduled to, the money that is going out is going to eclipse the money that's coming in. Let's see that, that, that right there, what you just said in the next seven years. Yeah, that is extremely angering, if you will, because we would have right now, had they not borrowed and never paid back, starting in 1983, we probably have $15, $20 trillion in that Social Security Fund that would, you know, cup, take care of Social Security for the next hundred years or something. Right? $15 to $20 trillion is probably what we would have right now in that Trust Fund to take care of everybody. Instead, they borrowed that money, never paid back and now Rand Paul says, oh, we're probably going to raise the age to 70. I mean, a lot of people don't want to work until there's 70. That's, I mean, that's insane. Now, what are your thoughts on them trying to raise the age to 70? Yeah, let's like, and we can draw some parallels between this and Obamacare. But look, the Democratic Party, when they sold the Social Security system, it was a total sham. You know, basically they, this is what government does. They, they step in and they say, we're here to help. We're going to provide this, you know, amazing service to you. But at the end of the day, you're paying for it. The question I would ask most people is, if you had taken the amount of money that you've been putting into Social Security, your Social Security, your FICA payments, you've been paying and your employer has been paying, and you took, put that money into an index fund, you know, in the stock market, you would be wealthy. We should be able to opt out of those Social Security. We should be able to opt out of having to pay taxes for the Social Security and just spend for ourselves if we want to. I absolutely, I totally agree, because frankly, the Social Security system is, is a really crappy pension system. I mean, like the worst. And Matt, I mean, would you, would you trust a politician to invest your money? I wouldn't trust a politician for anything, walk my dog, you know. No, I mean, like, I, this notion that, that, that politicians somehow can manage funds better than, I don't know, a money management firm, or that, that it's just absurd. And so what we end up with is like all things the government does is mediocrity and, and a crappy product and one that's not accountable to the people. And so that's the system that we have. It was originally calculated. It was set up so that the amount that was going in could, and the average, I'm sorry, life expectancy was around 60 years old. Yeah. That that system was created today. It's more like 80 in the mid 80s. I hope everybody would die before they had to pay for it. That's right. That they would most, so when it was set up, it was set up so that if you live longer than it then expected, then you could have funds available. That's not the case today. And we had no say in it. That's the thing. They can tax us, you know, it's funny because I talked to James about this sometimes. Okay, so our country was basically started because of taxes, right, because of the British taxes on tea that basically started the whole thing, right. But then a hundred years later, however long it is, Congress puts in a provision in the constitution that says they can tax us as much as they want. Yeah, in the third, in the 16th amendment. Yeah. The irony is unbelievable here. Have you ever looked into that, Eric, because you think there's any truth that there wasn't a quorum when that was ratified? Oh, I've heard about this. Yeah. I have to check back. It's been quite sometimes since I've heard this theory. But like, I think that at one point in time, it might have been almost 15 plus years ago, maybe maybe close to 20 years ago. I got a, I got it, somebody handed me a copy of a DVD. And it was called, I think it's called loose change. Oh, yeah. James James has told me about that many times. 9-11. So it first started about the first part of it. It correct me if I'm wrong. And maybe if people on the internet want to correct me, it's fine. I think the first part of it starts is talking about how the income tax system was, is not exactly what was passed or ratified by the states. It income at that time was somewhat similar to what we would call capital gains tax today. It wasn't your wages. It wasn't your right. Right. And that kind of evolved to end up becoming people's wages. And people have tried to challenge that. It's never gone, you know, worked its way through the courts. But at least, you know, and I'm not saying that this is accurate. I'm just saying that I wrote. That was a documentary that I remember watching almost 20 years ago. Well, let me ask you a follow up about Social Security and taxes. This is something that has drive me nuts and I'll try and be concise. Many years ago, Eric, I had an employee named Portofetial Dominguez. He was a dishwasher. He was from Mexico. He was awesome. Now, at the time, Reagan's, I think it was an 86 immigration act had passed. So I had to fill out and not what's called an I nine form. I know you're aware of that and people they take a picture of your driver's life. Social Security card. That was because of Reagan's law to and Reagan said, OK, we're going to give amnesty to all these people. It'll never happen again because we're going to pass this law that as an employer, you have to get an I nine film for that. So Portofetial was having trouble with these taxes. I called the Social Security Administration on the phone. I said, this guy's having issues. What's the deal? She goes, sir, that Social Security number is to a woman, not a man. So in my broken Spanish, I got the truth from Portofetial. He said everybody that comes across the border buys a black market Social Security. Now it's a real number. But it's a card. However, 20 million, 30 million immigrants that are working in America right now, Eric, almost all of them are working with forged documents. That's my first point. Because you may have never heard this. Because it's never never discussed in Congress. Number two, E verify would instantly solve that issue. The I nine form is a joke because they get around it with a Ford Social Security card. All they need to do is a driver's license. And in Missouri, you can walk in with the birth certificate from Guadalajara and get a driver's license. So why is E verify? I know it's come up before. Two questions. Talk to me about E verify in any legislation that you know about. Number two, is the idea that billions and billions have been withdrawn from fake cards and is in the treasury somehow? Is that ever discussed? Yeah. Okay. So to your first question, I'm pretty sure that there is. I'm pretty confident there is a bill on on instituting E verify. And I'm going to. I believe in my memory may be wrong here, but I think it's being sponsored by Andy Biggs. And so that is a bill. I don't know how. If it gets very far, it's clearly has not come up on the floor for a vote that I recall. It has before and it's well, maybe it's been proposed before. It's never come up for a vote or past. Let me put it that way. But anyway, go on. And I think some of the pushback is from employed. The like, you know, business community people that represent business. You don't want to have an extra burden, some kind of paperwork process. But at the end of the day, you have to your point. We have a lot of people that are defrauding the federal government. We have what was discovered during the doge efforts. Thank goodness for Elon Musk. But I mean, they went through the so scary system and found people that were 200 years old. Or people that have not been born yet. That were in the so scary system. Right. So you you had people with with. I think that there are some. There were thousands and thousands and thousands of people that were sharing the same social security number. Wow. So that. I mean, and what. And so what they said is that it's not necessarily that these people are getting these social security numbers to get social security. Right. It's that they use that not everything else that people do. Everything else you sign up for, whether it's TANF food stamps or Medicaid, you name it the free housing that was given away. Whether you're going to go to or just get a job. Yeah. All of that stems on us on a so so scary number. If it's in if it's easily faked, then you can easily get into these other programs. Once you've got that number, then you can you can get government money through TANF and. Absolutely. Absolutely right. And also vote. I mean, we don't know how many people have voted, you know, using these fake social security numbers. So I want to I want to ask you something that's again, it's going to kind of change topic a little bit for you. You said you've been in Congress for how long? This is my third year. Third year. Okay, so I just want to ask you see, we James and I have a theory about why Congress, you know, is so corrupt in certain areas. So I want to ask you, when it was your first year, when you were a freshman congressman, were you ever approached by, you know, like the senior congressman asked, you know, told you can't do this or, you know, you should. You know, watch out for this or, you know, any of that kind of stuff or maybe like a pack saying, you know, we'll give you money, but you better do what we say, things like that because that's our theory for a lot of the lot of the congressman out there. Now I'm not saying you did it because I know you're actually a very honest person. So I mean, come on. Yeah. No. Okay. So once you win the election, which, it's for me, it was pretty tough. I had, I Washington DC spent nearly $3 million in attack ads against me because they had seen my record in Missouri and knew that I was, you know, a straight shooter and was not exactly somebody that was just going to do everything that the speaker or the president of the Senate at that time wanted. And, you know, independent thinker and was willing to stand up to leadership. That's why I asked you that question because you are that person that would stand up and, you know, not do it. Yeah, and that is, you know, if you're Kevin McCarthy, you don't, you did, which he didn't want someone like me coming in. Right. There was money, and I'm not saying it was Kevin, but it was, you know, groups that were trying to protect Kevin's interest that spent nearly $3 million in the most vicious attack ads on me that you can imagine. And I mean, this is in the primary. In a primary, and it totally eclipses the amount of money that I can raise. And really that whole system is, you know, it's all, it's all done in such a way to give power to the people in leadership. Because they can go and ask for these huge checks to go into these super packs. And here I am being capped at 20, I think it was 2,800 bucks that I could ask from an individual. How in the world am I going to raise $3 million, $2,800 bucks at a time, right? Most, most, like most individuals are not willing to do that. But, but that's the situation, that's the reality of the situation that we live in is that I, I busted my tail to raise nearly a million dollars in my first primary and I outraged my opponent. Now, he threw in a bunch of money in his, that he, like he took out a loan and he and spent, I think, close to $7, maybe $607,000 in a loan in addition to the money that he raised. So I was outspent by him and I was outspent on the, on the pack side, but, but, you know, at the end of the day, the voters saw right through it and we won. And the moment that you win, then that's when the, that's when the courting starts, right? Everybody that was against you before or was on the sidelines is now calling you saying congratulations. I knew you're going to win. I was with you all along. And then the first thing that they'll start saying is, you know, what, what's your, what path would you like to go down, what committees are important to you? Or, you know, what would you like to be, what committees you want to be on? And of course, it's always couched. Well, you know that there are, you know, there's A committees, B committees and C committees. And the A committees raise more money than the B committees, B committees raise more money than C committees. And, and you have a heart that, you know, unless you're really close to leadership, and if you're, and this is where the conversation happens, they say, if you play your cards right, and you work hard, the leadership likes you, then you'll make, you can make your way to an A committee. And if you don't, then you'll be relegated to the B or the C or the B committees. But is it all about raising money? Yes, it's both. So his internet's a little off right now. It's just lagging, but we can still hear you. It is both, like, so I literally was. It's all that my, in the steering committee, which is mostly led by the speaker, and that kind of group, they, they discussed that I was, you know, that the whip team couldn't always, you know, I wasn't always going with leadership. So that was one check against me. I was, you know, I publicly stood up against leadership in the press, and called, you know, when, when, when you do stupid things, and you're violating, you know, the constitution, when you're, when you do things that really violate basic norms, and you know, then, then I'm not going to keep quiet. If somebody asked me, I'm going to be honest, I'm going to say, no, this is a stupid bill. And honestly, Eric, have you, I'm sorry, I think you're cutting out. And you, the third thing is money, the third thing is money. So if you raise enough, if you want to be on certain committees, you have, they literally will give you a menu of how much money you need to raise to be on, you know, X, Y, or Z committee. And, or what you're expected to, to, to give to be on those committees. So you got to raise the money and give it to the party. You've got to vote the way leadership wants you to vote. And then you, and then you also can't, can't talk that you have to like, you know, stay in your seat and be quiet, basically. So the one thing I wanted to ask you, has, has anybody and, and you don't have to name names, but has anybody threatened you to get you to vote a certain way or threatened you said, you know, you need to stay in your lane or anything like that. Um, I've had threats before, from, from people outside, I've, I've had kind of failed threats from people within, within the party. Yeah. So, usually it's in the heat of the moments. Yeah. So, so the, yeah, nobody's ever really carried out a threat to me. Hey, I would, I've got to ask you this. I know you know, Marjorie Taylor Green pretty well. She has caught a lot of hell. And we, we've got to talk about the issue, the elephant in the room, so to speak, GOP, is this division within our party over Israel. Yeah. And I'm just going to say personally, I admire the hell out of that woman for standing firm on her principles. What are your thoughts? So, I think that there is, it, to me, it's not that cut and drive an issue. I think that, I, I, I think that the people in Israel have a right to be there. I think that Israeli people have a right. And when people say, from the river to the sea, that is a anti, I have no problems. And that is an absolutely anti-Semitic rhetoric. Oh, yeah. Because you're basically telling a people group that, that have lived there longer than Native Americans lived in the United States. Okay. And, and, and existed there. And I, and to say that they don't have a right to be there or that they are colonizers is ridiculous. They were displaced throughout time, but not everybody. And I think that what some people kind of forget that part of history is that even when Israel was taking a captivity in Babylon, there was still a remnant of Jews that stayed behind. Yeah. And, and, and those settlements, they just didn't have any political power. Everything was being controlled out of out of out of a Babylon. But, you know, and then whenever they, so they returned, right? You know, and, and they were allowed to return. So they resettle rebuilt the temple. And then they, then, then you had the modern times where, where they were dispersed into, you know, Eastern Europe and beyond. And then, after World War II, they were able to come back. But even, even before World War II, there were Israelites that were living and had always been living in that area. Yeah. So this, and if you ever go to Israel, you'll realize it's very much like the United States. You have a home where they will have prominent display of, of the star David on their home. Next to a home that has the, the, the Muslim press at moon. Next to another home that has the Christian cross. Okay. And so that, that is what it, that is what Israel allows. And which is why the fact that they, the fact that they are tolerant to their face is, I think, not acceptable to the, to the Shia Muslim community. And, and so I think that it does, I think that there's a balance here. I don't think that we also, it doesn't categorically mean that every decision that Israel makes is something that we have to support. No, no, it's definitely not. So to me, I will fight to make sure that, that we have, that we continue our alliance with Israel to make sure that they're, that nation is protected. That because it is particularly a free country existing and it's one of our top out. It's probably is our number one ally in the world. But it doesn't mean that we have to agree with everything that, that, that, that, Benjamin that, yeah, who does. No, no, no, definitely, you know, I mean, you know, it just depends on, you know, your, your own values, which you agree on or not. But I can, I mean, I agree with what you're saying. One thing, one thing I do want to know and it's a good thing you brought up, you know, the Christian cross. Now, Christians are being, you know, systematically slaughtered in Nigeria, you know, the whole, the whole genocide that's happening over there. President Trump did finally say something about it. He said, you know, that they're going to make sure that it stops. How, how would you feel about, say, say they didn't stop, say they kept killing, because apparently it's been like 33,000 or something has been, or I don't remember how many thousand it's been that's been killed. I'm sorry, James 1000 since 2009. Oh, yeah, so they, I mean, they've been, they've been killing them, you know, a lot. 50,000 since 2009, yeah. Yeah, so how do you feel about, how would you feel about boots on the ground to help save the Christians in Nigeria if other measures don't work? I think that that would be a last resort. I think that you can, you can probably do a lot through sanctions. You could probably get their attention through a number of means. You could, you could provide a way out for people that want to get, get out to get out of that country. There's some countries that I think sometimes you just have to, you have to realize there is no, there's no redeeming it until it's higher priority, though. They're slaughtering Christians everywhere. I think it's appalling and I had, I've had a lot of Christians in my district, reach out, asking me to do something. And when we looked into it, it was that what the president needed to do was to categorize Nigeria as a particular statics, like change their status to a country of concern. And Trump did do that. So that was, that was, that was good to see. And that does come with it that Nigeria as far as the United States is concerned does not have experienced the same economic trade that the other countries do. So that's the first step. And then we'll see where it goes from there. But I use the country like Haiti, for example. I mean, it's some like, we have, I constituents that were missionaries in Haiti. And in that place has just become a hellscape for anybody. And we sadly, they were martyred in Haiti, you know. And so it's just, I mean, that you talked about one of a gut, a gut-wrenching weekend was getting phone calls from their parents trying to, you know, telling me that they, that they're under attack at their, at their missionary, at their mission, at the mission that they were located in, that they were, then, then the attacks escalated. And then, I mean, and here I am getting on the phone, trying to, we're trying to do everything we can to get, to get help there. But it's just, they were killed. Yeah, and they were killed in a brutal way. I mean, in such a way that it almost, it makes you realize there's true evil, evil in this world. And that's kind of the takeaway that I had I said, we, we're very blessed living in the United States. But, but I think that we kind of become a little bit, you know, in this Goldilocks, you know, environment. And we, we ignore the fact that, that this is unique, and that world history, and that the, and most countries do not operate this way. And that you've got tyranny in, in almost every shape of form and most, throughout all of history, in every, every country. And people that are, that, that have hate in their hearts and violence and, and all of the things that, that we're seeing all of the evil around the world. It's just sadly it's a part of human nature. And to deny that, I think is just sticking your head in the sand. It's how do we keep people, how do we keep people safe from each, from harming each other. And I think that this system that our founding fathers gave us is the best system that we've seen in history for, for creating peace and, and prosperity for everyone here. And sadly we've learned that we can't be the world's policeman. I mean, it's horrific what's happening. I, one of my really close friends is Nigerian. And he's a Christian. He's a doctor here in America, but we used to work together. And I mean, he's told me for two decades how corrupt that country is. There's really not that we just can't fix everybody. I wish we could. But I want to ask you, because you brought up some, you brought up Elon Musk and Doge. Americans, particularly your constituents, Eric and people like Jack, we loved what Doge did. I mean, it was amazing. Now, I know you're on a couple of committees about financial government responsibility and reform. What happened to Doge? Is it still going on? Where are we at with all of that? Yeah. So I'm actually on the Doge committee in oversight. So it's being chaired by Marjorie Taylor Green. And she does a fantastic job as the chairwoman of that committee. You definitely see her in action. She's a, she's a businesswoman. And you know, people that have real business experience, especially as a small business owner, they operate a whole another level than most politicians do. Yeah. And that's Marjorie. She's just, she's a hard worker. She's, she does a great job managing that committee. And she doesn't take crap from anybody. And so we, we have, we're the way that we operated in conjunction with the Doge effort. We had meetings with Elon and his teams. And so that was, to me, that was a really awesome experience when he was, when he was there. And, but the teams still go and, and they are still working to, to make government efficient. And there's a number of ways in which they're doing that. They're identifying places where there's been fraud and waste. But they're also finding ways of making, making government more efficient. And there hasn't been any charges, though, from all these fraud. I mean, they have found lots of fraud and abuse, but there's not any charges coming out of any of this. Yeah, that would be a question for Pam Bond. And so I know that a lot of this is being referred to the Department of Justice. And they're like sitting on everything, it seems like. Yeah. It's frustrating. And I, I kind of shared Trump's frustration with that one tweet that he sent out saying, you know, I think in the tweet, he said, I or his truth post, he said, I've had 30 conversations today, or seen 30 conversations today. He accidentally send that. Or saying that, uh, that nothing is being done or nothing will ever be done. And, and, and I frankly agree. And I'm frustrated as well, but now I am happy that at least some progress is being made. The fact that they're going after Bolton, who I think is a, who's like a self-serving traitorous individual. Yeah. Same thing with Comey and, and Brennan. I mean, the fact that they, these guys thought that it would be okay to spy on United States senators and members of Congress. It's absurd. It's absurd. I mean, it's some, I'm really glad. I think we just, we have been going down this horrific path for quite for decades. Yeah. And, and thank God for Donald Trump, because I think if, if he had not been elected, we would not be returning to this kind of this notion that the government doesn't belong to the bureaucrats, the government belongs to the people. And, and those that they elect, our job is to be the trustee for the thing that belongs to the people. Yeah. And, and, and that, and that's why Brennan, Clapper, Comey, um, Bolton, those guys all lost side of that. And instead they just use the government for their self-interest and building their empires. So let me, what do you think, and this, this is, um, this is something that has to do with religion, but it's more of an ideology thing. What do you think about, um, you know how all the, there's all this illegal immigration going on, not just in America. Well, I mean, Trump kind of put a stop to it, but there's still a lot of them here, but all over, all over the world, especially in the UK, you know, all this illegal immigration. What do you think about, it seems to me, and a lot of others, and probably a lot of your constituents, maybe even James too, about the Islamic takeover of what seems like the world. I mean, it seems like not only is these people taking over the world, I mean, look at Texas and New York, but they're being allowed to happen. I mean, these people will block the road, nothing will happen to them. These people will, you know, in Dearborn Michigan, they play their call to prayer five times a day, five, 30 in the morning. But if you did that for Christianity or anything else, you'd be arrested. This thing blare on the speakers outside this church in Dearborn. I mean, it's taking, it seems like to me, it's taking over America. It's definitely taken over the UK. So I mean, what are your thoughts on this and how would you stop something like that? Well, I think we should stop allowing people from these countries to immigrate here, because their culture is incongruent with the fabric of the United States in America exactly. And so they, unless they completely have a transformation of, you know, a philosophy or can demonstrate the dare. I think that with, by and large, with maybe a few exceptions, we should not be allowing people from Sharia run nations to immigrate to the United States. Like Nigeria, like Nigeria. But the fact that nobody is assimilating anybody that comes in. Now we, I mean, look at, look at Zohan, Zohan, Mam dummy up there. He is actually done, he's done commercials and political commercials in Spanish in Arabic. I mean, this man is not only is he pandering to everybody, but he knows that there's so many illegal immigrants that he can get them to vote for him because like we talked about earlier, the freak social security numbers and all that. I mean, so they said maybe 10 million illegal immigrants came in over those four years. My numbers had it closer to 30 to 35 million illegal immigrants that came over during that time. You got to think that's one fifth or not one fifth. Excuse me. That's one 10. American population is now illegals. That's insane. It is insane. And the fact that the Democratic Party that this was part of their strategy, once they realize that they can. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that when you see Venezuela become a socialist state and all these people want to see. I mean, then you take, okay, well, they were a socialist there, bring them over, right? Yeah. Bring them over here. Well, and the first thing you do is you start you put them on the welfare system and get to believe that America is the greatest socialist nation on earth. And the truth is we've allowed a lot, like a lot of socialism in the United States and just kind of ignored it. And I think it's time that we kind of rethink a lot of our, a lot of the things that we have allowed to kind of fester in this country. And that's why of what the Democrats, I mean, if you think about it, they just thought we'll bring over these socialists, let them kind of remake America, change the political landscape, and even if we can't get them to vote, we will boost our numbers so that we get more right. And go get more representation in Congress, right. And oh, what you just said was exactly have two ways of doing this, either the illegals are going to vote. And you know, they're going to get the illegals to vote so they can win all the elections or they got the census so they get more seats. Or the best way to, so Vladimir Lenin said socialism, the goal of socialism is communism. That's the end game of socialism. So what they, what they, what I think they're doing is if this doesn't work with the illegals and the voting and getting them everything they need. They're letting crime in all these cities and states get as bad as it can get, okay, they're letting crime go so the country can go. They're letting illegals come in so the country can go bad because what do you do when everything's terrible? You say, okay, I'm going to bring in my communist ideology, clean up everything, clean up everything very easily. And then I'll clean this up if you guys adopt, you know, this communist ideology kind of thing. So if you come in, say nothing's working right now, then all of a sudden you got Zorhan Mamdami running for president in 2028. And he's got his whole communist agenda and everything. And I'll clean up the whole country. Then he cleans it up and before you know what America is now a communist country because he ended up. Yeah, I mean, if you think about it, there's a lot of, if you read the book Animal Farm, you pick up on a lot of things that, a lot of things that can translate today. I mean, the pig Napoleon was able to get the litter of puppies and raise them secretly away from the other animals where he was able to kind of basically create his, his, his, you know, his SS, if you will. And, and that's what, that's what the Democrats have been trying to do is in order to remake America, they bring in their army of socialists. And, and then you've got the violent aspect of the Democratic Party. And I mean, you've got the, I mean, and I, I'll call it out, the, the left has become violent. Absolutely. You know, they, they blamed us, they blamed, you know, grandma and grandpa's that were peacefully walking through the nation's capital on January 6th. And then, but they're okay with all the, all the attacks and, and the, the burning that occurs in all these cities, they from Antifa, from BLM. And, and all of it is being funded by different groups. And that's why I really hope that Trump and the Department of Justice follows through after the assassination of Charlie Kirk. They need, they really need to follow through and say we're going to clean up this, you know, this system that has been created where money is flowing to people to be violent and to, and to cause insurrection in the United States. So, we don't have much time left. I got to ask you, I ran into you in Ozark, Missouri at the Charlie Kirk Memorial. It was a very moving time. I know for you, for me, for all of us. It's really difficult, really difficult. Are you confident in the leadership and the Department of Justice and specifically the FBI. And in their relation to the Charlie Kirk investigation, because I know you know you hear it. You know, I'm not Candice Owen's crazy, but there's a lot of questions that haven't been answered Eric. What are your thoughts? And then before you leave, I got to ask you about the shutdown. So, I truly think I'm disappointed with the Department of Justice. I think that, but I think the, I think the rot is so deep that they just that they, they could not, I think they could just continue to fire and fire fire, but they got to fill it with good people. And I know a lot of really great attorneys that have presented themselves to be available that would be fantastic in our own area. We have a former US attorney Tim Garrison. And then we have Jay Ashcroft. It's advertising to me that this administration doesn't have a role for the particularly in the Justice Department. But I think that the rot is so, is so bad that they're still digging that out. And then, and they're having to work with what people that they do have that will actually work with their with this administration. So a lot more needs to be done. There's plenty of pushback within these agencies, right by the bureaucrats left over from previous administrations. Yes, absolutely. I mean, the deep state is a real thing. It's, it's absolutely, it's, it's absolutely real. I think that DC has been run by the deep state for probably the last 60 years. Well, and those bureaucrats know they can just wait it out. They've been through many administrations. It's like, he's Trump's, you know, he'll be gone. So, so Jack, I don't know what your thoughts are, but got to hit. What's the situation on the shutdown? Are you enjoying it? First of all, being home with your family a little more. It's got to be nice. You know, I hate to be like, but yeah, I mean, it's, it's been good for me personally and my family to be home. I've also been good for the districts because I've been able to go to event after event after event in the community. I go as many club meetings as I can to give speeches and to get reconnected with my district and hear them directly, right when you, when you go to all these, you know, whether it's a rotary club meeting or, you know, or you name it, you're able to actually talk to a real person. And as opposed to the, just the people that are calling you on the phone or the people that are screaming, right when you actually talk to people. The, the two things that is consistent, that I consistently hear is, you know, that, hey, this government shutdown isn't affecting me and, and keep it up. Frankly, yeah, they would love it to be to stay shut down. They, the most excited people got about the government shutdown was when they heard that Russ vote might actually terminate employees or use the shutdown to make permanent terminations of employees. I sent them a list of areas I think that they should start. I like that. I like that. But, you know, and it's sad, but I wish that they would lean into that more. I think that that would get the Democrats attention. To me, what I, what I would do, and I'm praying, you know, what I would do is I would say tomorrow, because the government shutdown, we will be terminating this agency. And, and if, and if we're still shut down in two more days, we will find another agency, and we will have to terminate employees in that agency. That's a great way. Keep it going. Just keep it going. And eventually after you start cutting all of these liberal bastions that the left and the Democratic party have created and instituted. Eventually they'll, they'll come to, you know, once you bring them to their knees, then they will actually come to the table and negotiate. But right now, they're the ones that are trying to hold the cards. Yeah, no, no, you're absolutely right. So since, since you do have to go in a few minutes, as our show is almost over, I wanted to ask you one quick question. And, you don't have to answer it if you don't want to. But I just want to know from your personal opinion. Do you think Tyler Robinson was the one that killed Charlie Kirk? And if so, do you think he was alone in that? I don't know enough about that. I mean, only from what I've seen in the news. So I think that if anything, it's clear that he was part of a community of people online that were kind of that was kind of an echo chamber. And I, and I hope the FBI continues to look into that and see what, to what extent that they knew that this was going to happen. Yeah, there's some weird stuff. I mean, there was a song they were playing a couple days ahead. I don't know if you heard this one, Eric. Have you heard about the Google searches that happened in July? From Israel. There were Google, sir. I'll send you a link to the video. Google searches of Tyler Robinson with his middle name of Tyler's lawyers of the surgeons that were on Charlie. Of the building that the shooter was on. There were all these just and they were like single, wasn't like a bunch of people is like one ISP address. And they were all from Israel, which is just bizarre. I mean, get more, you know, conspiracy laden than that. I know. I know. It's just wow. Well, listen, I know your families there. We're going to let you go. I really, really appreciate this, my friend. You are like Jack said, you're not just one of the honest ones. You're one of the hardest work. And you represent the values that I know our listeners appreciate. So thank you. I wanted you on your definitely. Thank you. And appreciate what you guys do. And James, I really have enjoyed getting to know you over the over the years and talking about some of the conspiracies that we. We've had a good time. By the way, you can catch Eric. Don't you do Nick show every Monday. Yeah, I'm on Nick Reed each Monday, but I have saw a podcast called fresh freedom. Oh, that's right. Yes. You can find that on all the podcasts areas is. It's a podcast of the freedom loving members of Congress who are on that, right? I'm sorry. What? Isn't Timberchat part of that? We've had him on as a guest. Okay. And so yeah, it's it's a great. It's really it's a casual conversation about what's happening. What's been what's what's the name of the show? Where do they find it? Yeah. It's called fresh freedom. Fresh freedom on YouTube. I've seen it. It's amazing. YouTube Apple podcasts by all of it. Excellent. Excellent. Well, we really appreciate it. That's Congressman Eric Burrell. Son, I'm James Clary. He's Jack Danger. This is Secret America. We'll see you next week. You've been listening to Secret America with Jack Danger and James Clary.